As the info comes available post it in this thread for everyone to see. When the official stuff becomes available I will post it on the front page. I suspect nothing will be available until later on tonight, or even tomorrow.
Info from CP24 News:
Results From York University Strike Vote Expected Late Tuesday
Tuesday January 20, 2009Students will know Tuesday night whether their classes will resume at York University.
Nearly 50,000 full-time, registered would-be students have been out of the classroom since November 6 when members of CUPE Local 3903 walked off the job.
A two-day forced vote conducted by the Ontario Labour Relations Board is scheduled to finish around 7pm.
Both the union and the administration said voter turnout appeared to be high.
About 3,300 people are eligible to cast a ballot, including teaching assistants, graduate assistants and contract faculty. At stake is improved job security as well as wages for the contract staff.
University officials say their latest offer, which would include a 10.7 per cent pay hike over three years, is the best they can do. CUPE is recommending its members turn down the offer.
Monday, Ontario Conservative leader John Tory argued that back-to-work legislation must be brought in to end the strike, now in its third month.
“Mr. McGuinty, in the event that this vote fails, you must call the legislature back immediately. Enough is enough. It should be back midweek this week. The law should be passed ordering this strike to an end so that classes will be resumed on [Jan. 26],” he urged at the time.
However, Premier Dalton McGuinty has indicated that he would see the results of Tuesday’s vote before making a decision either way.
http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_31173.aspx
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January 20, 2009 at 6:17 am
I found this on citynews
http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_31173.aspx
Students will know Tuesday night whether their classes will resume at York University. A two-day forced vote conducted by the Ontario Labour Relations Board is scheduled to finish around 7pm.
Both the union and the administration said voter turnout appeared to be high.
January 20, 2009 at 7:13 am
If they vote yes, “Students could be back in class as early as next week”. Why would it take so long? I understand the 24 hour notice, but why not, say, Thursday?
January 20, 2009 at 7:16 am
I am glad to seee that the turnout was high.
January 20, 2009 at 7:18 am
DSD
I think it gives people time who have left the GTA time to get back.
Plus, there are many people who do not even have classes on Fridays one day back then a weekend would seem weird in my opinion. They probably want to start fresh on Monday.
January 20, 2009 at 7:53 am
If the information I received is correct, it appears that York administration is being informed as to exactly which departments are voting in exactly which numbers. This is a forwarded email that I received. I have only omitted the name of the sender and the department to which he/she belongs:
“Dear graduate faculty,
In yesterday’s supervised ratification voting, 47% of unit 1 (TAs) voted.
Surprisingly, the vote in our department was much lower at 22/67 (or 33%) of the eligible unit 1’s voted. If your graduate student did not vote, please encourage them to exercise their right to vote. This is their chance to have their voice heard.
Thank you.”
January 20, 2009 at 7:59 am
I would like to see that the union reject the offer and govern. introduce back-to-work immediatly. The union need to pay for their greedy, selfish and learn something here.
January 20, 2009 at 8:00 am
@CMwC
Are you suggesting that this is sinister?
January 20, 2009 at 8:13 am
I miss Mike Harris
January 20, 2009 at 8:15 am
Andrew,
I don’t know if this is necessarily sinister per se, but I think it has the potential to be a violation of the democratic process regarding ’secret ballots’. Another member of the list-serve I belong to has pointed out the following, and again, I’m just forwarding an email for which I am not responsible for the contents:
“Is this not an irregularity on top of the fact that in some cases IDs have allegedly not been checked? This would also mean that department heads, and in turn professors, and… anybody, can find out exactly who has voted and who hasn’t. Combine the two irregularities together and we could have people showing up pretending to be those who haven’t voted yet (as the list is obviously available) and cast ballots on their behalf without need for ID. This practice is commonly known as ’stuffing the ballot box’.”
January 20, 2009 at 8:23 am
snoopy,
It’s commonly understood that whatever contract would be arbitrated in BTWL would lie somewhere between the university’s current offer and the current demands of the union. So a “no” vote followed by BTWL would screw the “greedy union” less than a ‘yes’ vote right now.
January 20, 2009 at 8:27 am
Sam no results have been reveal yet, please do not post things like that will get people all up in arms and worried. I hope yorkstrike2008 is on today to do heavy modding in this thread to keep it clean.
January 20, 2009 at 8:28 am
@ CUPE member with child
I was just wondering…. if the results turn out to be mostly NO, then the strike continues!
BUT, everyone is talkin about back to work legislation n stuff… so wut i dont get is dat, are they gonna FORCE the unhappy TAs to get back to work, against their own will or wut?? can they still not accept BTWL ??
could u plz explain a bit about BTWL
thanx
January 20, 2009 at 8:28 am
Putting up this post and leaving it open to comments this early is more or less an open invitation to inciting hysteria.
Perhaps close comments till this evening?
ps. I miss Harris too….
January 20, 2009 at 8:31 am
@ CUPE member with child
I was just wondering…. if the results turn out to be mostly NO, then the strike continues!
BUT, everyone is talkin about back to work legislation n stuff… so wut i dont get is dat, are they gonna FORCE the unhappy TAs to get back to work, against their own will or wut?? can they still not accept BTWL ??
could u plz explain a bit about BTWL
thanx
January 20, 2009 at 8:32 am
@ CUPE member with child
I was just wondering…. if the results turn out to be mostly NO, then the strike continues!
BUT, everyone is talkin about back to work legislation n stuff… so wut i dont get is dat, are they gonna FORCE the unhappy TAs to get back to work, against their own will or wut?? can they still not accept BTWL ??
could u plz explain a bit about BTWL
thanx:D
January 20, 2009 at 8:33 am
@cmwc,
my understanding of the forced rat vote regulations is that, a) both sides have scrutineers at the table, and b) IDs are not required although may be requested (same for card signing in union drives etc).
So both sides are able to see the lists of voters and who has voted. I am sure both sides are using this information to ‘bring out the vote.’ there might be ethical issues here, but the practice is not violating any regulations.
in terms of the ID requirement, it’s a problem, no doubt. Basically, the ministry clerk at the table makes a call as to whether to require IDs or not. both sides probably have their laywers there as well, in cases disputes arise over legitimacy of any voters, or disputes with the clerk’s call on allowing or disallowing individuals to vote (for example, the university record may have a slightly different name than one’s ID, so the clerk will have to decide whether you are the same person). if there are a lot of issues over the names etc, then final results may be slow in coming out.
January 20, 2009 at 8:34 am
I said in the begining I miss Harris. He was the only man with enough balls to stand up to the unions and liberal agenda. Now with a liberal government which relies on most of its votes to come from the middle class and UNION members (teachers, caw,ect) , we can not expect BTWL because the liberals will not do anything right now to upset potential votes. Also as a party the liberals support the veiws and ideals of the unions and their right to strike. Nope there will be no BTWL, and the wispers of what used to be.
January 20, 2009 at 8:35 am
@ yorkstrike2008
I just wanted to thank you so much for this page!
You’ve created such an easy site to understand and always keep us posted with information as soon as it comes available
So here’s hoping that the strike will end tonight, and we won’t have to see this page ever again
THANK YOU
January 20, 2009 at 8:36 am
@ CUPE member with child
I was just wondering…. if the results turn out to be mostly NO, then the strike continues!
BUT, everyone is talkin about back to work legislation n stuff… so wut i dont get is dat, are they gonna FORCE the unhappy TAs to get back to work, against their own will or wut?? can they still not accept BTWL ??
could u plz explain a bit about BTWL
thanx…
January 20, 2009 at 8:38 am
@ KAZZA
I was just wondering…. if the results turn out to be mostly NO, then the strike continues!
BUT, everyone is talkin about back to work legislation n stuff… so wut i dont get is dat, are they gonna FORCE the unhappy TAs to get back to work, against their own will or wut?? can they still not accept BTWL ??
could u plz explain a bit about BTWL
thanx…
January 20, 2009 at 8:39 am
I can’t believe people are wishing Harris back…has hell frozen over?
January 20, 2009 at 8:41 am
i`m glad he`s gone, Harris screwed up things, McGuinty got stuck with his mess
January 20, 2009 at 8:44 am
um. McGuinty drove us to a 300million dollar deficit. Harris laid the ground works for improved OHIP. .
January 20, 2009 at 8:44 am
@YorkLover,
BTWL would be if and when the provincial government steps in and legislates CUPE back to work – thus rendering a continuation of the strike “illegal”. With BTWL there would also be an arbitrator appointed to decide what CUPEs contract with the university will be. Should CUPE decide to continue the strike despite BTWL then this is known as a “wildcat strike”.
January 20, 2009 at 8:47 am
@fracas,
Thanks for the clarification.
January 20, 2009 at 8:48 am
@ York Lover
BTWL would force the strike to an end and everyone back to work. Exactly what happened with the TTC strike last summer, lasted less than 24 hours and they were forced back to work under penalty of hefty fines if they didn’t. The government would then have to find a means to settle disputes; most likely binding arbitration.
January 20, 2009 at 8:50 am
@ CUPE member with child
than a bunch
OMGGGG …GOOO wildcat STRIKEEE
YEAAAY
January 20, 2009 at 8:51 am
@ york lover
yes. thats exactly what it means
ok?
yes.
January 20, 2009 at 8:55 am
I would add one more thing about BTWL. The usual is for only UNRESOLVED issues to be sent to the arbitrator. Anything that York and CUPE have agreed to so far would be preserved.
So, the arbitrator does NOT decide the whole contract, but only the outstanding issues that are holding up settlement.
January 20, 2009 at 8:58 am
Well, nobody is actually posting how the voting is going so far. How does it look, CMWC? Well, anyway, we’ll probably find out tonight at around 11:00 as per usual.
January 20, 2009 at 8:59 am
@ CUPE member with child & EnoughIsEnough
ok ! so i was still wondering, id there a definite date for BTWL ??
IS it even possible that the Government doesn’t step in??
is there any chance for the WILDCAT strike???
and how long dos it take for BTWL to surface, once the voting results turn out to be NO!
and I wannet some updates with the U of T strike!!!
thanx
January 20, 2009 at 9:02 am
we want WILDCAT strike
this whole mess has sucked the motivation n determination in studying outta almost Everyone ~!!
this is gonna be sooo awful for our marks and wut if all MED school care about our 1st yr mark, i KNow its the GPA of all 4 yrs but still
January 20, 2009 at 9:03 am
we want WILDCAT strike
*sighhhh*
this whole mess has sucked the motivation n determination in studying outta almost Everyone ~!!
this is gonna be sooo awful for our marks and wut if all MED school care about our 1st yr mark, i KNow its the GPA of all 4 yrs but still
January 20, 2009 at 9:06 am
York Lover,
There is no certain date for BTWL, nor is it certain that the gov’t will/would introduce it. If the gov’t were to set a specific date then it would give one side (in this case York University) further liscence to refuse to bargain and simply wait for BTWL. This would likely extend the strike beyond when it might be reasonably resolved if both sides simply come to the table and bargain.
Yes there’s a chance that the government won’t step in. And if they did then again, yes, there’s a chance (I don’t know how big though) of CUPE continuing the strike as a wildcat strike.
I have no updates on the UofT strike situation.
January 20, 2009 at 9:10 am
This is the Cupe site for U0fT, other than that, I don’t know any other information.
http://www.cupe3902.org/
January 20, 2009 at 9:17 am
@YORK LOVER
You seem to be really incompetent. How are you even aspiring med school?
January 20, 2009 at 9:26 am
med school people don’t necessarily have to be street smart, they’ve only learned from a book
January 20, 2009 at 9:28 am
alot of you seem to forget about international students which make up a significant amount of york undergrads… they can’t just start school the next day if they have students who are waiting on another continent!!!
January 20, 2009 at 9:31 am
yea, int’l students are money-making means of YorkU corporation!
January 20, 2009 at 9:40 am
@ non of ur freakin Business! N for ur info. i have been the top of my calsses my wholkelike n this is pretty normal to feel unisnpired, when ur bein kept outta class, by force, for over 2 months!
) Napolean Dynamite <3
why do u have to open ur trap w/o thinking !!!
GOSHHHH… freagin Idiot
Than CUPE memeber w/ child!
U r the nicest here <3
January 20, 2009 at 9:44 am
@ York Lovers
The strike at UofT won’t be anyhting like the one at York. They have very few contract profs, so it would be mostly TAs on strike. From what I’ve been told, UofT would just restructure their mark breakdowns to get rid of tutorials. Classes will continue. It’ll make things difficult, but nothing like what we’re experiencing.
January 20, 2009 at 9:49 am
I am so fed up with this strike! I came back this year because I thought it would be better to graduate with honours than with a regular B.A, now I am regretting that decision! Honestly the strike has gone on so long I have lost all motivation to do work. I finished all my assignments and continued to study for my exam when we return but once the middle of December rolled around i thought it was pointless to study. I just gave up! I wish York would return my money, but of course they won’t, they are just a business, they don’t care for the students at all! What a waste of my time and money!
January 20, 2009 at 9:50 am
hey y’all
just talked to an adviser at york and she said while they don’t know the outcome of the vote yet, york is preparing to go back on friday. so i think that friday, not thursday as previously discussed, is the earliest possible we could go back. that said, people are pushing for monday so that there’s more time to get organized.
January 20, 2009 at 9:53 am
Only the Senate can call classes back. Once the strike is settled, 24 hours notice and then we are back in classes.
Anything people tell you otherwise is BS. No one knows and we are all in the same boat waiting for tonight’s outcome.
January 20, 2009 at 9:56 am
If we were to start thursday, would that mean we would have our original thursday classes? I thought I heard somewhere that they could change that around? Maybe I misunderstood, anybody know?
January 20, 2009 at 9:57 am
@ YORK LOVER
Im also worried that this strike will be affecting my marks to apply for med school but luckily im in first year as i remeber the only med school in Ontario that looks at all 4 years are McMaster and U of T. Still alot of options. You just got to work you butt off in the last 3 years.
January 20, 2009 at 10:00 am
And I could be mistaken, but from what I have read, the Senate seems to be VERY sympathetic towards the students. I am hopeful that they will be aware of just how difficult it will be to go back on Thursday if we don’t find out about the vote till later on tonight. Just my opinion, but I am fairly certain that we will have no class this week regardless of the vote.
Not to mention, York has to hold some information sessions between the rat and the resumption of classes. It is doubtful that they would be able to
a) Organize the information sessions
and
b) Inform the York commity about information sessions
if they were to be held tomorrow. I hope I don’t regret this, but I am not planning on going back until Monday.
January 20, 2009 at 10:04 am
I’d expect Monday to be the start because you do need to give students time to get back.
With that said though, depending how the outcome of this vote us, I’d highly suggest start to return this weekend as an end does seem near.
January 20, 2009 at 10:11 am
EnoughIsEnough
January 20, 2009 at 8:48 am
@ York Lover
“BTWL would force the strike to an end and everyone back to work. Exactly what happened with the TTC strike last summer, lasted less than 24 hours and they were forced back to work under penalty of hefty fines if they didn’t. The government would then have to find a means to settle disputes; most likely binding arbitration.”
True enough, except, Toronto is the economic hub of Canada, there is more to lose here. BTWL was passed quickly becuase the economic situation would not simply rest with the bargainers, but the irate commuters who manage the money in this country. York is a bit different, the functionality and motivations of BTWL is more ideological in this circumstance, rather than economic. Money is not at stake, but the education of the young people.
It would seem that the temporary delay in the “education of young people” is not enough to drive Dalton to call back the provincial legislature.
… Kinda makes you feel small when you think about it.
January 20, 2009 at 10:16 am
so i’m guessing the earliest we can be back in class would be on thursday or even friday???
if the results are announced on tuesday night.. they cant expect to have every student back and ready in the calssroom by wednesday morning..
January 20, 2009 at 10:19 am
No they won’t. God, please read messaged before typing. It has only been said now 1000 times that they have to give at least 24 hours. If they announce it tuesday night, then Wednesday night would be the earliest (no classes all Wednesday) so we would start Thursday. BUT they are probably willing to think of us for a change and move it to Monday giving people the chance to get to class.
So expect school (if this goes through) Monday, but be ready to go back as early as Thrusday.
/end discussion
January 20, 2009 at 10:21 am
i will not read every post in this thread.. lol just wanted to clarify it..
January 20, 2009 at 10:24 am
York Lover,
In 40 minutes, you managed to hunt down some straggling TAs and harass them for their vote? And gain an understanding as to their observed voting patterns?
Do you reside in the hotel from which the vote is taking place?
January 20, 2009 at 10:26 am
@ That person; York Lover
Yes, you are right about medical school requirements. However, I would advise you to verify your research on medical schools. (U of T and McMaster require a minimum of 3 years).
January 20, 2009 at 10:26 am
@ Student
Sorry, don’t give me that bullshit again. I am getting tired of students always using the “lazy card” for a reason of asking the same question for 100 times. There is not that many replies in this thread, not would it be hard to use common sense in this situation.
@ York Lover
You obviously didn’t go to the picket lines, because you have been typing here for the past 2 hours. We get it, this is a game to you.
January 20, 2009 at 10:29 am
Andrew B – an end does not actually seem near. Just because they have implemented a forced rat vote, does not mean the strike will end soon…Your ill informed.
January 20, 2009 at 10:29 am
Hey,
I’m a lazy jerkface, that can’t spend 2 minutes looking at older posts. . . But, I had a couple of questions:
When will we know the results of the vote? And…
If they vote “Yes,” then, when will we be going back, is it Thursday, Friday… Sunday???
I simply must know now, because I can’t wait until legitimate information arises.
January 20, 2009 at 10:31 am
@ NOT)Student for Social Rights
u r fucked in the head my dear!
jus go to the fukin YORK’s website n eveything is there!
I jus wanna rape u right now…dats how mad u got me!
January 20, 2009 at 10:31 am
lol you people need to chill out..
January 20, 2009 at 10:32 am
@ brutal
I am not ill informed because if you have bothered to read what I have wrote I have always said “IF IT PASSES”. I am well aware this is not a for sure thing. I even wrote
So expect school (if this goes through) Monday, but be ready to go back as early as Thrusday.
Simple reading would solve a lot of problems on this, but of course, students want everything spoon fed to them like children.
January 20, 2009 at 10:40 am
@YORK LOVER
so your cousin is staying in the same hotel, and that somehow enables YOU to talk to the TA’s while sitting on your computer and refreshing this page for the past 2 hours?
January 20, 2009 at 10:44 am
Guys,
CUPE already knows it is a No. They are arranging a post-Ratification Party at Concord Cafe at 8pm.
I just got the email. Feel free to check it out.
I am just angry…
January 20, 2009 at 10:46 am
YORK LOVER
January 20, 2009 at 10:31 am
@ NOT)Student for Social Rights
u r fucked in the head my dear!
jus go to the fukin YORK’s website n eveything is there!
I jus wanna rape u right now…dats how mad u got me!
. . . I thought it was funny. Maybe i’m just fucked in the head.
January 20, 2009 at 10:46 am
Just wanted to thank CUPE 3903 for lifting the practicum restrictions from Faculty of Ed students, officially allowing us to continue our placements effective immediately. I know that over the duration of the strike I have posted a series of rants expressing my frustrations as a Faculty of Ed student with the current dispute. But I want all CUPE members to know that, for the most part, my posts were written in good fun. Nevertheless, all those that continue to support this retarded strike can go to hell. Seriously.
As for me, it looks like our Faculty of Ed site will tentatively begin classes on Jan 26th regardless of whether or not 3903 members decide to kiss the rat, neglect the rat, participate in beastiality with the rat, etc. For the sake of all the undergrads on this forum, I sincerely hope that this dispute is finally brought to an end. Either way, this is my last post. I’m out.
January 20, 2009 at 10:52 am
people who are worried about your marks for getting into med school and other graduate schools – maybe you should waste less time posting here and start studying and maybe you should have spent the 2 months studying and revising instead of moping about the strike. not to be rude but even if it’s harder just work a little bit extra and you should be fine. if you are planning on going to med school this is great prep for the pressure!! i just want to go back to school and graduate and have a decent summer. i really hope they vote yes…they are not going to get much more out of york.
January 20, 2009 at 10:54 am
Important message to all Education students!!
Got this in my First Class email this morning and figured I would share it here in case there is anyone who didn’t receive it.
To all ED2 and ED3 Full-Time Concurrent and Part-Time Consecutive Students
The Ontario Teachers’ Federation intends to lift its suspension of practicum at the request of CUPE 3903. In lieu of this recent development, you are advised to return to your practicum placements beginning this Thursday January 23rd (see schedule below).
In order to maintain positive relationships with Host Schools and Mentor Teachers, Teacher Candidates should contact their mentor teacher to plan this re-entry date as soon as possible. Emails will be sent today to all Site Coordinators alerting them to the fact that practicums can commence.
If Thursday was your practicum day you should return to practicum on Thursday January 23.
If Friday was your practicum day you should return to practicum on Friday January 24.
If Monday was your practicum day you should return to practicum on Monday January 26.
If Tuesday was your practicum day you should return to practicum on Tuesday January 27.
If Wednesday was your practicum day you should return to practicum on Wednesday January 28.
Practicum Seminar classes will not begin until classes have resumed.
–apparently CUPE went to OFT and asked them to remove the suspension on practicum placements. Does this mean that they don’t see the strike ending soon? If they thought that the strike would end tonight, why would they ask for OFT to lift the suspension since it would be automatically lifted as soon as the strike ends. hmm…
January 20, 2009 at 10:55 am
I have actually grown 3 grey hairs during the onset of this strike. York University and CUPE 3903 both owe me a paid trip to the salon for hair colouring.
January 20, 2009 at 10:58 am
But it is true. cupe 3903 is hosting a post ratification party tomorrow at 8 pm in concorde cafe.
I think they are quite confident that members will reject the offer.
So cnances for this getting rejected is certainly more than 50 % (atleast 51%) .
In any case i think the earliest the school can start is only this monday ( 26th). If this crap extends beyond that, summer semester is more than likely to get canceled.
January 20, 2009 at 10:59 am
@Just Another Yorker.
Ha! I can’t afford to send you to the salon, but if the strike ends soon I might be able to chip you a drug-store box of dye if we get a good contract.
January 20, 2009 at 11:06 am
@ CMWC
Hey I cant afford to go to the salon either…..maybe we should be friends…..no never mind i take it back
January 20, 2009 at 11:20 am
Oh the level of maturity here!
January 20, 2009 at 11:25 am
this is a lose-lose situation for me. Either way its going to suck. I’ve moved on with my life and gotten two part-time jobs with employers that I respect and who will further my career, so you better believe I won’t be quitting. One of the employers who I made arrangements with OVER THE SUMMER hired me because I told him I would have a light course load in January which I was supposed to have, since first semester was going to be so damn heavy, now first semester will resume and Ill be working 5 days a week. On the flip side I feel for the other students who are really going to suffer if the year gets cancelled. FUCK York FUCK CUPE Im going to a country with bad labour relations!
January 20, 2009 at 11:27 am
lol @ york lover
be my doctor
January 20, 2009 at 11:29 am
Half of you on this page don’t even deserve to go back to school.
January 20, 2009 at 11:31 am
i just spoke to a friend and he was at novotel hotel, and spoke to different ta’s and contract faculty and he told me this is gonna be a really close vote.
January 20, 2009 at 11:32 am
I think you know exactly who I’m talking about. Otherwise you wouldn’t get so defensive.
January 20, 2009 at 11:36 am
here is a letter to under graduates from the union. i found this on the strike website.
http://www.3903strike.ca/letter-to-undergrads#more-2322
January 20, 2009 at 11:38 am
clearly you gentlemen and women are impervious to humour… regardless carry on with your discussions
January 20, 2009 at 11:39 am
@ ram
I refuse to read anything this fucking union says. and if they vote no today I will have lost all of my respect for the TAs at York.
January 20, 2009 at 11:42 am
Re: Confused,
I know how you feel about being screwed by this strike, all I can ask is:
What happened to ‘no student will be negatively affected by this strike’
Not only have I been negatively affected through financial means, academic means, but also my future. I have little to no chance of getting into teachers college now with this strike, and unlike many of the students at York (clearly not all of the students) I have to work for the full four months of the summer to afford to come back to university for graduate studies…and now I only have a maximum of three months if this strike ends tonight. If not we are looking at entering June for the second semester, as we are already going to be entering the fourth week of May if they do agree to this ratification vote.
So what happens to the students that have been negatively affected by this? I know that nobody can really answer that question but just throwing it out there. I know my father’s answer is for the student body to come together and file a class action law suit against the school, but that takes time and money that none of us have…
January 20, 2009 at 11:42 am
@ kari
then you most probably will end up losing all of your respect for them by tonight. It is very clear unit 1 and unit 3 (the aggressive units) will definitely reject if not unit 2.
Even if two units reject, it is enough for the strike to continue.
January 20, 2009 at 11:46 am
@ram
I didn’t mean to say that as if i’m siding with the university or anything because they are not much better. THE POINT OF THE STORY IS THEY ARE TREATING US LIKE SHIT, SO FUCK THEM ALL!! I’M SICK AND TIRED OF READING THEIR HORSE SHIT.
January 20, 2009 at 11:46 am
Do not forget: “we must choose hope”
January 20, 2009 at 11:47 am
No one has the right to say anything formal about the certain outcome of the vote until, the earliest 7 o’clock. So shut up, unless you wanna get chewed out by everyone on this forum.
January 20, 2009 at 11:47 am
after the union votes no, McGuinty will legislate them back to work before york capitulates. I cant wait til that happens so I can rub it in all CUPEs greedy faces.
January 20, 2009 at 11:49 am
big guy??? LOLL
anyways….go ahead and fight with me over the internet!! because that’s really smart and productive!! LOL
January 20, 2009 at 11:49 am
GOGO POWER RANGERS
neuuu neeuu neeuu neeeeeuuuuu
GOGO POWER RANGERS
neuuu neeuu neeuu neeeeeuuuuu
GOGO POWER RANGERS
YOU MIGHTY MORPHIN POWER RANGERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
holy shit i really hope this strike is gona end soon i duno how much longer i can continue sitting in front of my laptop and holding my balls…
January 20, 2009 at 11:50 am
Losing faith,
“I know my father’s answer is for the student body to come together and file a class action law suit against the school, but that takes time and money that none of us have…”
Well, actually most lawyers in class action lawsuits will work on a contingency basis, haven’t you ever seen Erin Brokovich?!?!?!
January 20, 2009 at 11:51 am
Arber, were those dragonballs? Of the “Z” variety?
January 20, 2009 at 11:51 am
@york student
who said we were fighting? i love you my brother. i have nothing but love in my heart. i am exploding with love. i want everyone to feel my love all over their skin.
talk about a double entendre
anyways, best of luck in your studies of douchery
January 20, 2009 at 11:52 am
hahaha depends whos asking
January 20, 2009 at 11:54 am
you guys are getting really lame
@ york lover
Grow up, this is supposed to be a converstation about school. your obvious lack of temper control shows that your maturity level is more on par with the 4 year old then that of a university student.
January 20, 2009 at 11:55 am
York Student,
Ah, dude, you ruined it. It is all about subtlety.
January 20, 2009 at 11:56 am
We should all go to York with a clown’s nose as a protest.
January 20, 2009 at 11:57 am
“Grow up, this is supposed to be a converstation about school. your obvious lack of temper control shows that your maturity level is more on par with the 4 year old then that of a university student.”
Mega Blooper just harshed my buzz.
January 20, 2009 at 11:58 am
no i think we should go to york with brass knuckles and baseball bats.
January 20, 2009 at 11:58 am
See what we should all do, get about 30 000 of us students and go fucking strike against the strike ( and while we are at it, let strike for some more money and be selfish like the union).
January 20, 2009 at 11:59 am
CUPE must stand strong and force York to cancel the school year. That is the only way they will give to CUPE’s demands. Also it will inspire all other union comrades around the world to fight for justice and defeat imperialism. The capitalists at York must be forced to tough situations and then they realize CUPE is serious about demanding the impossible
Students must understand and support CUPE in pushing for canceling the year. Sure there might be slight inconveniences, but as a whole it is much important to win this strike rather than finishing the school. This is the fight against injustice and imperialism and as such it must be the top priority. Lets slap the capitalists in face
Viva la Revolution
Go CUPE Go
January 20, 2009 at 12:14 pm
@TRUTH (quite obviously fake)
You can stop stealing usernames now, we get your point.
-__-
January 20, 2009 at 12:19 pm
I am not sure if any of you read this, but this is what the Unit 2 website is saying even if one Unit accepts the offer, they said the strike is still on. I don’t know what happened in 2000/01 strike or what will happen now, but this is what the union is saying about voting.
1. Any unit that accepts the offer can no longer bargain. That unit would be stuck with the current offer both for a collective agreement and for an imposed, non-negotiated back-to-work protocol.
2. Members of any unit that accepts the offer may no longer collect strike pay.
3. Even if two of three units accept the current offer, the strike continues. Senate has said that “classes cannot resume until after a tentative settlement has been ratified by the union’s general membership.” This means all units.
4. Judging from the exit polls, it looks very likely that U3 and U1 will reject the employer’s offer. If U2 votes Yes to the offer, you will not be allowed to return to work, or receive your York pay until every unit has reached an agreement.
5. The administration will have to return to the bargaining table to negotiate with all units that vote NO. In 2001, U1 and U3 negotiated a better contract with the employer within days following the forced ratification vote.
I just wondering what you all think of that?
January 20, 2009 at 12:21 pm
there is no chance of back-to-work legislation. perhaps if the strike continued well into the spring. the members will handedly reject the offer, then return almost immediately to bargaining, york will throw more on the table (the final offer is never the FINAL offer), members will have what they need and everyone will be back to school/work within 2 weeks.
January 20, 2009 at 12:23 pm
@TheLegace
You better not be bsing.
January 20, 2009 at 12:25 pm
YS – it’s on here http://cupe3903unit2.cupe.ca/
January 20, 2009 at 12:32 pm
“Even if two of three units accept the current offer, the strike continues. Senate has said that “classes cannot resume until after a tentative settlement has been ratified by the union’s general membership.” ”
That’s true, unless the Senate decides to change their mind. Would they? Just a thought…
January 20, 2009 at 12:33 pm
One thing I just don’t understand is why these strikes have happened almost 3 times in a decade. I know everyone here thinks Union is bad and everything, and honestly it is not in my position to say who is right? But one has to question its not like the same people have been striking for the last 10 years have they? I am not for the Union, but I am not for York University and honestly I want to get to class as soon as possible. But first thing that always comes to mind how come york has had so many strikes? I mean is the employeer just pissing of the employees or something or are just ideologies of the Union being passed down by generation. Just a thought.
January 20, 2009 at 12:38 pm
@TheLegace
#1 and #2 are true.
#3 is true, but if Unit 2 votes “yes” (or even otherwise), there’s nothing preventing Senate from resuming classes. In that case, Unit 2 members would have the choice of crossing the picket lines or losing their jobs, as to continue the strike would be illegal.
#4 is not surprising if true, but I have no idea if it’s true or not. (Actually … if somebody took the time to write this, then maybe the unit 2 vote is close?).
#5 is true, but both sides were motivated to negotiate after unit 2 voted “yes”, and I would argue the union was in the weaker position.
January 20, 2009 at 12:38 pm
this website moderated me talking about my eyes bleeding but it won’t moderate arber for not shutting the fuc k up
January 20, 2009 at 12:39 pm
The purpose of the Forced Rat is to get the university out of the sandbox and upto the picnic table to start serious, mature negotiations, no? How likely are the chances that *IF* the vote fails (ie; majority side with ‘no’ on the current offer), the university will give in on its only bargaining chip: the 2 year deal?
The 2 year deal clearly, is the only sticking point for both sides, notwithstanding the additional outrageous demands of CUPE. It seems likely that even if the univeristy agrees to the outstanding demands of the union, CUPE will still not accept anything other than a 2 year deal, regardless of how cushy the offer is.
Am I correct on this?
January 20, 2009 at 12:39 pm
hey..
gud newzz….my dad is a memeber of cupe 3903 unit 2 and he just messaged me that we’r returning this thursday cause majority has voted YES….so congratss….and get ur bags packed….and be ready for LOADZZ of assignmentsss, testss and examz!!!
January 20, 2009 at 12:48 pm
trizzees
January 20, 2009 at 12:38 pm
“this website moderated me talking about my eyes bleeding but it won’t moderate arber for not shutting the fuc k up”
Sorry trizzees, but can you please refrain from speaking about bleeding eyes, that’s bloody disguisting. NO POSTS ABOUT BLEEDING EYES!
January 20, 2009 at 12:52 pm
k @YES Or NO
no one finds out till 7 pm, so im not sure what ur saying is right man
January 20, 2009 at 12:53 pm
YES OR NO = FAKE
January 20, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Why would a person make his name “YES OR NO” and then convey the results as being a yes. It does not make any sense to me. Why not make your title, “Yes” instead of making it unambiguous.
FAIL!
January 20, 2009 at 12:56 pm
ok what exactly is the point of coming on this forum with a fake username and spreading false information??
We are all here trying to find out what is going to happen to our education and our school year.
So can we all just try to be mature, carry on a productive conversation and wait to find out what’s going to happen with the voting!!!!! gosh!
January 20, 2009 at 12:59 pm
I can’t believe how many people feel compelled to spread false information. There are no results yet. Everyone just wait.
January 20, 2009 at 12:59 pm
@arghhh
Where did you get your info?
January 20, 2009 at 1:00 pm
so what is the verdict ?
January 20, 2009 at 1:00 pm
You know what guys, I’m just giving up on york and going to Hogwarts.
January 20, 2009 at 1:01 pm
@ Student for Social Rights
haha, good analysis.
January 20, 2009 at 1:12 pm
so when the results will be official ?
January 20, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Around 7 or 8.
January 20, 2009 at 1:13 pm
@ YES or No
As having a so-called concrete voting result , i suggest u change ur nickname to “YES n YES”
Happy ending. period.
January 20, 2009 at 1:18 pm
What are you saying Yes or No, that Yes is winning votes over NO, hard to believe.
January 20, 2009 at 1:21 pm
@Ms Doan…
it won’t make no difference to the outcumss…..so WATEVER…..
January 20, 2009 at 1:23 pm
@Worried
My thoughts exactly.
January 20, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Yes my “worried” freind….yes is winning votes over no….so hurry and catch up with ur readingss….we’ve got only 2moro….and thats wat i’m doing….also hope for pass/fail option cause i really need that…
January 20, 2009 at 1:24 pm
I’m starting to wonder now what kind of education we will receive when and if we return. Of course i sympathize for those students who are graduating this year and even for the international students who have been screwed over the most, but as for myself who is (was) a first year student, I believe that everything is going to be crammed so much that Gpa’s will be lowered and essentially those of us who go back will be screwed over once again by the immense course load and having to make up for lost time. Now I am starting to debate whether losing the year is really so bad, as it seems like the only reasonable alternative for people in my position, aside from cancelling the summer all together and run the school year until late august.
January 20, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Is this what happens when school is out for two and a half months? Pretty soon we’re going to be stealing Piggy’s glasses to light fires.
January 20, 2009 at 1:27 pm
This YES or NO guy is beginning to sound a lot like Fred.
January 20, 2009 at 1:28 pm
I don’ think the Senate would make classes start as early as Thurs even IF the vote went through. The international students need the weekend at least to get back to York.
January 20, 2009 at 1:34 pm
International students compromise less then 15% of York’s population. They aren’t holding the rest of us up for such a small minority.
The Senate was clear – 24 hours and we are back in class. Haven’t you all had enough time off at this point?
January 20, 2009 at 1:35 pm
the senate has already told us that they will give a notice of 24 hours only!!! which will be wednesday…so thursday we’ll be heading towards york!!
and by the way if they would have been so much worried about international students…there wouldn’t have been strike at all…
January 20, 2009 at 1:35 pm
dun dun dun…
January 20, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Additionally – if you take pass/fail your pretty much screwing yourself over on mandatory courses.
Stop jumping on whatever random idiot comes on here and tells you the strike is over. There are no results out. No one has insider information. The Ministry of Labour will announce things once voting is wrapped up this evening.
January 20, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Yes or No
you need to remember that yes 24-hours notice will be given but it takes time for the union members to organize everything before they all go back to work, on top of that York needs to get organized as well before we go back.
January 20, 2009 at 1:37 pm
**IF** classes resume on Thursday, are we going to be on our previous class schedule?
January 20, 2009 at 1:39 pm
The senate never said 24 hours notice. They said AT LEAST 24 hours of notice. Big difference.
January 20, 2009 at 1:43 pm
@ flying J
Just to clarify, as I got the email this morning too…as far as I know classes aren’t starting until the strike is over
“Practicum Seminar classes will not begin until classes have resumed.”
I think the whole tentative start date of January 26 is in the event that the strike is ended tonight with a YES in the Rat vote…
January 20, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Yes or No……I hope barack obama smites you
January 20, 2009 at 2:07 pm
@ Pissed off
If I read the senate bulletin’s right… no.
I *think* that whatever day we start on will be a “Monday”
ie. If we start on a Thursday;
Thursday = Monday classes
Friday = Tuesday classes
Monday = Wednesday classes
Tuesday = Thursday classes
Wednesday = Friday classes
someone want to verify or correct me?
January 20, 2009 at 2:08 pm
.. either way, we will receive info from the University as to what the heck is going on, once the strike is over.
January 20, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Thank you j.
January 20, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Because the strike began on a Thursday, if it were possible to resume classes on a Thursday, then things would work out easily for scheduling the remaining class meetings of “fall” term. But even if the ratification vote brings the strike to an end, I suspect faculty will be under instructions to accommodate students who can’t make it back to town for the first class sessions when things get back underway.
January 20, 2009 at 2:16 pm
@ j
That doesn’t make much sense to start on a “Monday class” if we go back Thursday, seeing how the first class we missed because of the strike was a Monday! lol
And not to mention the fact that virtual days would screw everyone who has a set work schedule.
January 20, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Commuter….i really doubt that york cares about the students’ work schedules.
if i remember correctly, i read in an email sent to me by the head of my program that schedules will be revised in order to makeup for all the classes we missed.
i was just wondering because i don’t have class on thursdays and fridays. so i just wanted to know if i would be going back on thursday IF the strike were to end.
January 20, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Actually, I’m praying for a no.
Sorry if that’s selfish, but its not like what I’m hoping makes a difference.
Here’s why,
I forgot, nearly everything. Even the most basic, like chapter 1 of my economics course, the detail, and plots for books I read for humanities..
Its too late to actually gain the knowledge behind the credit your earning. When we go back, I’m TERRIFIED that I’ll be swamped with work and fail my courses. Also have no social life what so ever, and that doesn’t help with my relationship on the brink of ending.
If the strike does last at least until the next vote, then you know, they cant expect to much out of us, and its probably ridiculous to think this, but maybe we’d get an easy credit out of this.
Of course I wanted to actually learn and earn my credits, but this is my first year, and the strike is already longer then the summer holidays from high school that a lot of first year students were used to. Everything prior the strike is totally LOST to me. Honestly! And I kept up with my readings.. at first…but obviously stopped.. I mean wheres the motivation. I’m trying to study again now. but that’s whats got me so panic struck.. I realized I KNOW NOTHING ANYMORE.
I miss going to school, my friends there, and everything, but I’m afraid that going back to school will ruin everything! I’m sure I’m not the only one. This whole thing is just beyond unfair
January 20, 2009 at 2:27 pm
My bet is that we start Monday — with a negotiated settlement for a contract.
January 20, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Caragh…
it seems like ur being lazy more than anything else.
We’re all going to be swamped with work. you just seem to care about ur social life more.
there is a really simple solution to that dear.
DROP OUT!
January 20, 2009 at 2:31 pm
A lot of times of these comments makes a person wonder why some of you haven’t dropped out by now. Scrape the semester? Scrape the year? Vote no, delay us a little bit longer? My social life would be ruined!
January 20, 2009 at 2:31 pm
@CMWaC
Do you mean to imply that the vote the past two days will lead to a NO and that York will once again resume negotiations with the union on Monday? Just wanting to clarify what your opinon was.
January 20, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Caragh,
Dont worry. Everything is going to be the same. I mean, in the first weeks we will have a lot to catch up but after that … everything will be ok.
Stop the panic … as if the work we do in that university is really something difficult and exceptional.
January 20, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Would virtual days continue just for the fall term or winter term too?
January 20, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Caragh,
I agree. Look at this in the terms of people that want to finish their academic career and move towards ‘real life’. Although yes, it will be difficult to cram for the finals. I think that the way they have laid out nothing can be due until the 2nd week and other various rules, the majority of your time will be studying the material required for the exams (which should hopefully be marked easier, and not as hard).
Put your head down and get through this. Don’t look for the easy way out, because there won’t be one.
January 20, 2009 at 2:41 pm
@ Caragh
First off who gives a shit about your crumbling relationship, 4th year students have been systematically shitting in their pants wondering what will happend with grad school applications and internships.
Learn to manage your time properly.
January 20, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Caragh:
I agree somewhat.
We’re all going to be swamped, but the profs and York know this. So I’m sure the remainder of the Fall term will be done in a way that will be bearable and fair for the students, since they owe us. Hell, I forgot almost everything too and I did almost no studying over the “break”. [I'm not gonna lie; I wasn't motivated at all.] But you sound like you’re giving up. You really shouldn’t. It’s your first year, there’s still time.
January 20, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Yeah. Caragh, no one cares about your stupid relationship and social life.
If you want to party with friends drop out of school.
God. I wish I could make all people like this get out of York.
January 20, 2009 at 2:48 pm
@Caragh
Sounds like you are not ready to attend university. Go and do some traveling or something. Come back when you’re ready. University is about commitment and hard work. Your social life and relationships are of no concern to us. You need to grow up!
January 20, 2009 at 2:52 pm
@ me
I know the feeling- i highly advice that rather than spending hours trying to fit into a pair of infant sized pampers you look to the adult department for some ‘Depends’. Don’t forget the wet whipes.
January 20, 2009 at 2:57 pm
I wish you’d all stop ragging on each other, people are allowed to explain their opinions and personal situations on this forum. If you don’t like it, don’t read it or respond to it, unless someone is posting misleading information.
January 20, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Omg Timothy, you are just way too funny
January 20, 2009 at 2:59 pm
@That person,
What I mean (and hope) is that it’s a no vote, and that they will negotiate a settlement before the end of the week, it will be ratified on Satuday and school will resume Monday.
January 20, 2009 at 3:00 pm
@ Tired
link plz. thks
January 20, 2009 at 3:00 pm
@ tired
it wasn’t even 7pm when you posted that you lying sack of shit
January 20, 2009 at 3:02 pm
I did say I knew I was being selfish, but in reality what I hope for doesn’t effect anyone does it.
k guys. its 7 pm. I’m stressing.
January 20, 2009 at 3:04 pm
city tv is showing a movie.
STOP UR LIES!!!
January 20, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Make Rogers Channel 10/63… debate!
January 20, 2009 at 3:04 pm
ohhh my Timothy, you are just something else. I can’t stop laughing at your jokes, it makes my day.
January 20, 2009 at 3:05 pm
@Timothy
I like your selection of words. Don’t think I could have said it better myself
January 20, 2009 at 3:05 pm
@ Timothy
Sorry to ruin your hopes. But I was in the hotel when counting the votes together with the lawyers of both sides.
You can check it for yourself. Will be on CUPE’s website soon too.
January 20, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Look at all of you putting down Caragh! I don’t think Caragh said anything about ‘partying’ it up with friends or that doing so would be highly more important than school. Stop making judgmental assumptions. It really isn’t nice how people become so blunt over the internet.
@ Caragh
The feeling is mutual. I’m sure there are many other students who are in the same boat, so don’t worry. We’re all going back to York, whether it’s Thursday, next week, or two/three/four weeks from now, and so it’s important for all of us to start getting back into the school mind-frame. The point is that we shouldn’t put ourselves down or get anxiety attacks over this, but we should support each other and get that courage to get back in class. We will all be fine.
January 20, 2009 at 3:07 pm
I Swear You People Better Voted No, I Don’t Want To Go Back Now (Worst Time). Good For Nothing TAs lol
January 20, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Alright somebody PLEASE summarize what is going on right now. CP24 is busy being American and its focus is totally on Obama right now.
PLEASE somebody explain the situation! are we at school this Thursday?!???!
January 20, 2009 at 3:08 pm
@ Caragh’
I am in the same boat as you
just in case you feel left out with all these ppl telling you that you suck
January 20, 2009 at 3:09 pm
@ Tired,
Wow its quite sad that you spend your time making up stupid bullshit. I have one thing to say to you, and one thing only, GET A LIFE
January 20, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Alright somebody PLEASE summarize what is going on right now. CP24 is busy being American and its focus is totally on Obama right now.
PLEASE somebody explain the situation! are we at school this Thursday?!???!
January 20, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Alright somebody PLEASE summarize what is going on right now. CP24 is busy being American and its focus is totally on Obama right now.
PLEASE somebody explain the situation! are we at school this Thursday?!???!?
January 20, 2009 at 3:11 pm
@Kimochi
Nothing has been announced yet. Keep waiting.
January 20, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Alright somebody PLEASE summarize what is going on right now. CP24 is busy being American and its focus is totally on Obama right now.
PLEASE somebody explain the situation! are we at school this Thursday?!?!?!?!!??!?
C’MON PPL NO MORE BULLSHIT
January 20, 2009 at 3:11 pm
@ Mandy
Just wait another 10 minutes or so and keep checking the CUPE website
January 20, 2009 at 3:12 pm
thanks davey :]
January 20, 2009 at 3:12 pm
i’m guessing the info about the vote will be on ctv or cp24 for the 11pm news..
January 20, 2009 at 3:12 pm
@Kimochi
Nothing is going on. Nobody knows anything. kimochi ja nai!
January 20, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Common people, its been 11 minutes… We probably won’t get info for a while.
January 20, 2009 at 3:13 pm
im watching channel 10 (rogers)
voting is done now. they are counting the ballots.
results will be in by 9pm.
January 20, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Lost Season premiere tomorrow!! 3 hours of strike forgetting awesomeness!!
January 20, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Eh, I made sure the vote won’t effect the situation of the strike. The strike is still on, my info is legit. If you don’t believe me, watch the news in an hour for the “official” results. When you hear them, i will post here that i was right.
- Your Friend,
Salut.
January 20, 2009 at 3:14 pm
@Caragh…i sympathize with u….i know the feeling, but honestly if u put ur mind to it, u can do it, i am in my second year and i felt that last year i attained better results working under pressure….just put ur mind to it, afterall if not this week, we have to return to school sometime soon. good luck, its gonna b ok.
January 20, 2009 at 3:17 pm
It looks like we might know for certain by 9-10, sounds about right.
January 20, 2009 at 3:17 pm
yea, we should support each other, both students n instructors. i think we all should get back to work. it needs started off at some point, otherwise we r all getting lost. As losing any school term is my most terrifying story that i never ever wanted to tell my parents, who work so hard to invest for my future professional. as many of u may not be aware, intl students are paying way too much for post-secondary schools in canada.
January 20, 2009 at 3:18 pm
I’m pessimestic about it, I doubt it’ will pass.
If these moronic CUPEs let it go on for so long they’re not going to stop it.
Man I am going to be so rude to the TAs when I go back.
Just kidding.
January 20, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Damn! 367+ online people are here.
January 20, 2009 at 3:24 pm
I am shattered if i hear a NO to the NO or an YES to the YES. But my inner self tells me that there will only be YES o the NO.
i.e STRIKE WILL CONTINUE!!!! yayayayaya
January 20, 2009 at 3:24 pm
i’m watching CP24 and they said they’re just waiting for the results. shoukri will be making a statement tonite between 9 and 10. the guy said 10 pm at the latest we’ll know.
January 20, 2009 at 3:24 pm
“Timothy
January 20, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Caragh,
If the Chinese aren’t complaining, why should you?”
????
January 20, 2009 at 3:25 pm
@ Cupe Rules
don’t be such a fucking cocktease if u have proof add the link if you don’t – well you can just go hang yourself.
January 20, 2009 at 3:25 pm
News isn’t even on on CTV now, lol.
January 20, 2009 at 3:26 pm
damn … No? why? another 2 weeks of negotiations?
Roger Ch is now talking about cancelling the year
January 20, 2009 at 3:27 pm
everyone watch channel 10 (rogers).
there is an interview with a CUPE representative and a rep. from the student body.
January 20, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Goldhawk Live on channel 10 (rogers) is on right now talking about the strike and taking calls.
January 20, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Is it officiall already? finally no?
January 20, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Yeah
Goldhawk was talking about the possibility of year cancellation too
damn
January 20, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Is this true? Can anyone verify?
January 20, 2009 at 3:32 pm
I’m watching Goldhawk right now. no one has said anything about canceling the year!! they are still waiting for the results of the votes to come in.
January 20, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Watching it is making me more and more mad!
January 20, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Well me and my people are working hard for a year cancelation as we know its the best option for Us and the interests of the undergrads. Like i said, this vote wont effect the strike, forget about it.
Salut.
January 20, 2009 at 3:35 pm
GOLDHAWK”S just takin calls from students and theyre saying that the year should be cancelled…. he isnt discussin the possibility!! its just a discussion… i think this waiting game’s driving us all crazy!
January 20, 2009 at 3:37 pm
It’s a live translation so I suppose they’ll be the first to know and will interrupt the program to announce the results. Will keep watching.
January 20, 2009 at 3:39 pm
yeah I honestly dont wanna go back now.
January 20, 2009 at 3:41 pm
I think they might announce it on this show too.
January 20, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Then drop out. All of you who don’t want to go back, that’s your option.
The rest of us aren’t willing to sacrifice a year of our lives for this none sense.
January 20, 2009 at 3:42 pm
On Wednesday, January 21, there will be a GMM at 9AM-12PM at the Montecassino. Picket lines will briefly resume between 2-5PM.
Afterwards, picket hours will revert to the normal schedule of 7AM-5PM.
these are the lines taken from the union website. they have already planned for picketing. So i think they know internally that the union has rejected the offer. We just hae confirm it officially.
you can check it on their website
January 20, 2009 at 3:43 pm
I personally do not think that anyone is ready to go back… after suffering for this long, its gonna be hard to get ur head back into schedule… but we all know that, ready or not, we all have to face the time sooner or later… better be sooner than later!!
January 20, 2009 at 3:44 pm
I don’t think we will hear about the results for a couple of hours at the earliest. . That’s because the polls close at 7:00 p.m and it takes a while to count the votes. There could also be a recount. All this takes time. Hopefully I am proven wrong.
I also hope that that a crazy schedule does not get inacted as suggested above i.e. where Monday courses are held on Thursdays… This is a recipe for disaster. Who wants to go to school on Fridays? I didn’t sign up for that. I would be really p/o if this was the result after being held up for so long.
January 20, 2009 at 3:44 pm
yea, i think they know that the results will be NO. that’s why they’ve already made plans.
January 20, 2009 at 3:44 pm
No matter when it happens, I know me and everyone else I know will not be ready to go back.
January 20, 2009 at 3:44 pm
On Wednesday, January 21, there will be a GMM at 9AM-12PM at the Montecassino. Picket lines will briefly resume between 2-5PM.
Afterwards, picket hours will revert to the normal schedule of 7AM-5PM.
January 20, 2009 at 3:44 pm
@B STFU!
that is all
January 20, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Ana – Grow the fuck up.
That is all.
January 20, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Really, did they vote no? Come on, this sucks!! i can’t take it anymore!!
January 20, 2009 at 3:48 pm
You STU B, not like your you gonna graduate any time soon your dumb as hell wanting to go back now. Thing about it smart guy. What are you? Ray Charles, freaking blind? the best option is that we get our money back by next month so i can get a fucking full time job!
January 20, 2009 at 3:49 pm
yess…..majority voted for NO!!!
January 20, 2009 at 3:49 pm
YES or NO,
Will you shut the f*ck up?
January 20, 2009 at 3:49 pm
The Guy – then drop out and go for your full time job. York will give back money when hell freezes over.
January 20, 2009 at 3:50 pm
dont believe me…go watch ctv and cptv…..
January 20, 2009 at 3:50 pm
@YES or NO
Nice try. You lose.
January 20, 2009 at 3:51 pm
I think everyone needs to chill… go watch some porn or something, refreshing every 2 minutes won’t make the results come faster.
January 20, 2009 at 3:51 pm
I would drop out buy frankly i can’t get my money back so stfu ray charles.
January 20, 2009 at 3:52 pm
YES or NO…
game 4 slam?
January 20, 2009 at 3:52 pm
IM SO FUCKING SICK OF THIS SHIT!!!!
January 20, 2009 at 3:52 pm
I apologise that I have been unable to moderate the comments. I have been detracted from my computer for personal reasons. I am typing this from my cell phone.
I will be back within the hour.
January 20, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Access Hollywood is on CTV right now lol I highly doubt they will give a Yorku Strike update
January 20, 2009 at 3:53 pm
http://www.cupe3903.tao.ca/
January 20, 2009 at 3:53 pm
u guyzz wanna bet me???? 1 million dollarssss…i dont have tht much money…but i kno u’ll be the one givin it to me…cause ur gonna lose…and i’m 101% shure….
January 20, 2009 at 3:54 pm
OK, SO I WANT BUT DONT WANT TO GO BAK TO SCHOOL….IM KINDA SCARED OF IT NOW..SCHULICH IS GONA FUK ME UP THE ASS ONCE THE STRIKE IS OVER
January 20, 2009 at 3:54 pm
any news yet???
January 20, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Channel 10 guy just said “we still don’t know how the vote is gonna turn out”
January 20, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Golhawk says the results are still not known yet. 1 more hour we should know.
January 20, 2009 at 3:56 pm
But he said within an hour or so they may know…
January 20, 2009 at 3:57 pm
when do u guys think would the results be out?? around 9??
January 20, 2009 at 3:57 pm
cp24 hasn’t got the results yet either, it’s still a waiting game as of now
January 20, 2009 at 3:57 pm
If the school is gonna cancel, they should atlteast offere a refund for some of the people who want it
Too be honest, i’d rather have a full time job, and come back next year and start my university year all over again with no hiccups
that’s just my opinion though, also no one knows for sure if its yes/no, channel 10 rogers says it will be known in an hour or so?
January 20, 2009 at 3:57 pm
give us some sites Mr. TWO
January 20, 2009 at 3:58 pm
This whole talk of the vote outcome = FAIL
Wait for the 11PM news
January 20, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Is it honestly that hard for people to find free porn?
January 20, 2009 at 4:01 pm
just kidding. i know it is easier than “what is 1+1 ?”
hahahahaha
January 20, 2009 at 4:01 pm
lol
January 20, 2009 at 4:02 pm
more like 2+2=5
January 20, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Watch the video on my name for all your strike news and when we will go back. All the answers are right there.. now click and stfu!
January 20, 2009 at 4:03 pm
LOL pseudo-rickroll?
January 20, 2009 at 4:06 pm
on cupe 3903 site
Week Schedule
On Wednesday, January 21, there will be a GMM at 9AM-12PM at the Montecassino. Picket lines will briefly resume between 2-5PM.
Afterwards, picket hours will revert to the normal schedule of 7AM-5PM.
interesting?
January 20, 2009 at 4:07 pm
or are they trying to present a strong front till the end
January 20, 2009 at 4:07 pm
stfu Yorkie LOL j/k
January 20, 2009 at 4:07 pm
i really don’t think we are in a position to be picky about what days we want or dont want to go to school!!
our first concern at this point should be just getting back to class and finishing this goddamn year. if that means going to school on a freakin saturday too then so be it!!
stop being a bunch of divas!
January 20, 2009 at 4:08 pm
You can go to school on saturday Pissed Off, good luck, have fun you moron LOL
January 20, 2009 at 4:09 pm
if wanting to go to school, get my money’s worth, and finish my degree this year makes me a moron, then yes…i MUST be a moron.
January 20, 2009 at 4:11 pm
You are a moron, good thing we both agree. Guaranteed you won’t get a job you want with that degree of yours.
January 20, 2009 at 4:12 pm
I hope the results will lead to a non-acceptance of the YorkU administration offers. The fact that students will have to cram information and knowledge within a fairly short period of time to complete the fall term isn’t what education should be about. We have to be given some time to digest the knowledge we receive in order to fully understand concepts that are likely to aid us in our future academic and job careers.
Students did not ask for this strike, but it happened. Now that it’s been almost three months we shouldn’t be forced to return, when most of us are no longer in the right mindset to be educated. We paid for a service to teach us things of significance. Learning takes time so that we may be able to digest new information to make them more meaningful. Having to resume classes only to be expected to complete the fall term within two weeks renders any knowledge we are supposed to gain and benefit us, very forgettable and insignificant.
By prolonging the strike, we can then start anew in September when most if not all of us are again ready to take the academic journey. If the union members lose jobs because of it, well that’s great since they began the strike in the first place. If YorkU loses money, well it’s not our fault and as students we deserve to receive the proper educational services we duly paid a premium amount for.
I hate the fact that whenever there’s a conflict the students usually get the shittier end of the deal.
January 20, 2009 at 4:13 pm
lol im glad you have my entire future all figured out!
let’s see what sort of job ur gonna get with that degree of urs!! OH WAIT!!! YOU DONT CARE TO GET A DEGREE!
please….stop talking before you make an even bigger fool out of urself!
go watch ur RKELLY video and pipe down
January 20, 2009 at 4:14 pm
AND TO THAT KIND OF DEAL… I SAY “NO”!
January 20, 2009 at 4:14 pm
@ Result: No
Wow, that was the smartest comment i have read since i been here on the website. Well put my friend, Some of you morons should learn from his theories and listen. I been trying to stress the same thing for a month.
January 20, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Why ruin what we already have? I wouldn’t mind pass/fail option for the fall semester, but winter and summer should still go on.
January 20, 2009 at 4:15 pm
I don’t want to spend an extra year at York and especially I’m in my fourth year. Yeah, sure, we’re not going to be getting the “quality” education, but wasting one more year of my life is much more damaging! Start anew in September? I’m supposed to be starting a JOB in September!
January 20, 2009 at 4:15 pm
to those of you who are hoping for a “NO”
do you realize that the later we go back to school the more crammed things are going to be? why are you hoping for a no? the sooner we go back to school the easier things are going to be on us. we have to go back at some point! so the sooner the better!!unless ur hoping for the year to get canceled. thats a different story.
maybe you have $5000 to throw around but i don’t.
January 20, 2009 at 4:17 pm
I would want compensation of some form for the lack of teaching during fall semester (partial refund would be teh sex) but I wouldn’t want to ruin the year. Winter semester is perfectly fine.
January 20, 2009 at 4:18 pm
the thing is we will get some education when we go back.
with
No quality
No good grade
No assimilation
No digestion
No satisfaction
No confidence to go hence further!
Bu it is better than sitting in this shit for one more year!!!!
January 20, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Cp24 says, they’re still waiting for the results.
January 20, 2009 at 4:19 pm
@ Pissed off
Too bad i already graduated from York in 06 with a bachelors degree in Human Resource Management. I got the job and position i wanted, i am working at a company called “starline” in the human resource department. My brother is actually finishing up York in the next 2 years. So you go watch R. Kelly Videos because i put it there for your interest.
January 20, 2009 at 4:20 pm
@MR Two
“partial refund would be teh sex”
I concur!
January 20, 2009 at 4:21 pm
@ results: no
what are you bitching about man. The strike started nov.6 and the term would end dec 1…thats like 3 weeks. They’re giving us 2. Will a week of ‘digesting,’ particularly a cariculum that will most certainly be condensed to accomodate this strike, REALLY deeply effect your ability to “fully understand concepts.” If YES, then you should quit now buddy…
@ EVERYONE
any word on the rat results? no one has any ‘inside sources’ on this thing?
January 20, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Shokri is expected to mae an announcement later tonight…
January 20, 2009 at 4:22 pm
*Shoukri
January 20, 2009 at 4:22 pm
when can we expect results to come in?
“Tuesday evening” is too vague for my liking.
January 20, 2009 at 4:23 pm
*make
ughh
January 20, 2009 at 4:23 pm
You guys never stop amazing me. For weeks you cried about wanting school back on, and now when it is close to being back, people don’t want it. It’s like December all over again.
January 20, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Time for victory
Another slap on the face of capitalists which proves that our slogan “Demand the impossible” is not baseless. Those imperialists know they have little time
Now both CUPE and students should push for the cancellation of year which will affect York badly. We must make sure this year gets canceled to get our point across
This victory requires sacrifices and one of them is to let go of education for this term which is a very small and non-important price considering the benefits it has for humanity and our comrades
Demand the impossible
Viva la Revolution
Go CUPE Go
January 20, 2009 at 4:24 pm
@bulldog
8:30-9:00, they’re estimating now
Save your arguments until we have some results people.
January 20, 2009 at 4:26 pm
@AndrewB
Don’t be surprised, the people on this forum are diverse, like CUPE. -__-
January 20, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Thank you yorkie. I agree, cancellation would be better for all students, but PR hell caused by short-sighted parents
January 20, 2009 at 4:26 pm
agreed cancel!
January 20, 2009 at 4:26 pm
If you want to cancel drop the f** out of school you retards.
Stop clogging up York University and giving us a bad name.
I’m not wasting a fu**ing year of my life cause you’re too lazy to study a little harder.
God . Hold a fork, go to york. I thought it was a joke, maybe it’s true after all.
January 20, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Agh stupid strike im so eager for the results. i wouldn’t mind a cancelation either.
January 20, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Time for victory
Another slap on the face of capitalists which proves that our slogan “Demand the impossible” is not baseless. Those imperialists know they have little time
Now both CUPE and students should push for the cancellation of year which will affect York badly. We must make sure this year gets canceled to get our point across
This victory requires sacrifices and one of them is to let go of education for this term which is a very small and non-important price considering the benefits it has for humanity and our comrades
Demand the impossible
Viva la Revolution
Go CUPE Go
January 20, 2009 at 4:28 pm
what time does shoukri address us?? n on what channel???
January 20, 2009 at 4:29 pm
@Theowene
How is it a waste? go and get a job related to your degree that you want to get. Youl get more money and experience in the real world. Not a Waste if you ask me…
January 20, 2009 at 4:29 pm
The year won’t be cancelled. People need to stop with the radical statements. We’ll go back, feel strange for the first three weeks, then get over it and continue as usual.
January 20, 2009 at 4:30 pm
who said its anything to do about that? im an international student u fuck and paying 25000 dollars a yr on the contrary ur just paying 5-6. so go sit on an electric pole u faggot.
January 20, 2009 at 4:30 pm
I wonder what the turnout was… 1000 yesterday, today?
January 20, 2009 at 4:30 pm
You guys wanting to cancel are probably 1st/2nd years. Come talk to me about wanting to waste a year of your life when you’re in 4th year and 5 months from grad.
January 20, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Lets have Obama decide.
January 20, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Cancel W00T!
January 20, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Whaaa’?! I am stunned to see how many of you want the whole year canceled. I’d like to go back as quickly as possible and get this year over and done with.
January 20, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Cancel the year?
Viva la Revolution?
what happens when you leave some kids without school? They go non sense.
January 20, 2009 at 4:31 pm
anyone know shoukri’s email?
January 20, 2009 at 4:31 pm
K lets have out own little VOTE! If you want the year to cancel speak up now!!!
January 20, 2009 at 4:32 pm
@ theowne
You are wrong. I can hold a fork but still go to York.
Regards
January 20, 2009 at 4:32 pm
@ pissed off
I agree with you completely. I want to go back to school. We will have to work hard to catch up, but I think the profs will be considerate of our lost time and do good reviews and we will forget all about this in a few months. I read that the last strike had very little lasting impact on the students’ results. If the year was cancelled and this year was wasted I would be extremely pissed off.
January 20, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Truth
You are a moron….ruin the lives of 50000 students for mere bullshit
It’s too late….you demand the impossible at the expense of students.
Dont blame york…both york and cupe are too blame…they both rejected negotiations during the main periods
I hope for back to work legislation, so you cupe leaders go back with nothing to your members and your members who are being played like puppets can demand your resignations.
I’d demand executions as well
January 20, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Cancel!
January 20, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Cancel the year? Gosh … I would not know what to do with all the rent I paid to stay here … hope this is a joke …
January 20, 2009 at 4:32 pm
AndrewB
It’s not about 1st year 2nd year. I’m 1st year I don’t want the damn year canceled. It’s about being a retard vs. not being a retard.
January 20, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Cancel
January 20, 2009 at 4:33 pm
i want a cancel.
January 20, 2009 at 4:33 pm
The year will not be canceled.
January 20, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Cancel the year? Bunch of morons!
January 20, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Canceeeellllleeee
January 20, 2009 at 4:34 pm
guys we will find out at 10 pm tonight….heard on the news !
January 20, 2009 at 4:35 pm
I agree with everyone here, a cancel would be most reasonable at this point
January 20, 2009 at 4:35 pm
yeah!! i do not know Y so many of you want a cancellation? Already york’ little reputation is ramified by this strike. If they were to cancel the year, Our degree will be seen as something even worse than getting one by just paying money.
January 20, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Yeah im for cancel
January 20, 2009 at 4:36 pm
FYI
mshoukri@yorku.ca
January 20, 2009 at 4:36 pm
how can all u guys really want a cancellation for fall semester!??? its crazy guys, we’re just 3 weeks away from final (1/2 credit courses) …. i seriously mite just get a heart attack if they do something that wicked!!!!!
January 20, 2009 at 4:36 pm
@ Ram
CANCEL PLZ!
January 20, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Who cares what idiots want? They fail to realize that York (and all other post graduate institutions of education) are BUSINESSES FIRST and PUBLIC SERVICE SECOND. They function to make people money, and will continue to do such. Do you honestly think York will cancel a school year and face losing all that $$ over this? Get real. CUPE workers will get legislated back to work before something that crazy would happen.
January 20, 2009 at 4:37 pm
lol @ every cancelation.
seriously tho, i wouldnt mind canceling
January 20, 2009 at 4:38 pm
I cannot believe the number of people here wanting the year to be cancelled. Thats insane. Many of us want to finish our term and move on, rather than having to repeat the year. Stop advocating for baseless stuff. If you think u cant handle the pressure, then drop out. Geez.
In reality though, I think its highly impossible that the year would be cancelled. Summer is more likely to get cancelled, even that I doubt. Just my opinion though.
January 20, 2009 at 4:38 pm
CANCEL FOOLS!
January 20, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Year will be cancelled for sure. York is seeking a bail out to refund students’ tuition fees.
January 20, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Im all for canceling
January 20, 2009 at 4:39 pm
@ Important
I really hope so bud.
I am for cancelation too
January 20, 2009 at 4:40 pm
I’m begining to think only one person is posting for cancellations. No one can swamp this forum that fast. Lol.
January 20, 2009 at 4:40 pm
hey guys,
can som1 tell me what wud happen to the winter term? i applied for winter so i was supposed to start in january, so what would happen if the year gets cancelled? does that mean like no school for all semesters?
plz explain..thnx guys
January 20, 2009 at 4:41 pm
I wish someone would open up a thread called “I want the year cancelled”, just so all these fools could go talk to each other somewhere where it won’t bother people looking for actual updates.
January 20, 2009 at 4:41 pm
lol that would be funny but i seen it b4 its before the big news to people want to get their opinion out. I want a cancel too!
January 20, 2009 at 4:41 pm
I don’t see why anyone is thinking/hoping for the year to be canceled. It’s not going to happen, or at least it is ridiculously unlikely. The fact is that if you feel that going back to york now would compromise your education than you should probably drop out now and get your refund. Why wait and hope for york to cancel your school year when you can cancel it yourself?
January 20, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Winter term starts right after Fall one ends (after strike ends of course), as far as the Senate has said.
January 20, 2009 at 4:42 pm
You people are morons! why would you want the school year to cancel??! I need to graduate.. this strike isnt helping.. hopefully we’ll be goin back on Thurs!!
January 20, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Cancellllll!
January 20, 2009 at 4:43 pm
I WANT THE YEAR TO BE CANCELED SO I CAN STAY HOME AND WANK OFF ALL DAY TO SOME OF LELA STAR’S NICE PUSSY.
January 20, 2009 at 4:43 pm
CANCELLL
I DON’T WANT TO GO TO YORK ANYMORE
January 20, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Yeah. There is a stupid someone posting NO here. Please man .. this is serious .. people’s lives are at stake here.
January 20, 2009 at 4:43 pm
@Tabrias
You can’t get much of a refund for the Fall term, or year long courses already started.
January 20, 2009 at 4:44 pm
The no answer will be a strong reminder to york about our demands and how dedicated CUPE is
Students (with the obvious ignorant minority of them) all agree to cancel the year; most of them are smart enough to see how much contribution they are going to make to let go of this year and stand strong with their comrades in line
This is about hope, justice, freedom and equality. We stand strong today to make it the first time a school year gets canceled in Ontario at a university. By doing this we will break barriers and show the word that impossible is meant to be achieved
The moment of victory is close and we shall be ready to let York know that students will not finish their term. This is the most important objective
Viva la Revolution
Go CUPE Go
January 20, 2009 at 4:44 pm
thanks yorkie, but if the school year gets cancelled, does that mean that like theres no school for all semesters?
January 20, 2009 at 4:44 pm
cancel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 20, 2009 at 4:44 pm
@ Mr Two
Capitalizing “R” fail less. For your troubles though:
http://lolcatz.net/view.asp?id=03a7ca8b-b39b-4deb-ae8c-fa53eca948c7&t=&tid=1&p=4&pid=2&irp=87
January 20, 2009 at 4:44 pm
York would never cancel the school year. They legally cannot!
January 20, 2009 at 4:45 pm
@Julia
I wouldn’t get my hopes up for Thurs.
January 20, 2009 at 4:45 pm
At this point. I do not want to go back. I’m so disappointed and tired of doing nothing that I honestly feel like quitting my academic studies.
I took a year off after highschool..
I’m now in my third year, and everything was going great until this nonsense. I like the majority of people I know , have not kept up with $hit
I and many others are going to be screwed when we go back and after 3 months of nothing i have ZERO motivation…
I don’t know about you ( there are clearly a lot of nerds on this site), but I can’t work well when I have no idea when i’m going to go back, if at all.
Cancel the year. F%$# CUPE and F%$# York…
A year cancellation with screw both of them over just like we have been …
Students do nothing about this but come on here and BITCH… Peaceful rallies and letters…
You all have no guts, we should fight back some way that will hurt them…
CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT….
NO ATTENDING CLASSES.
LETS HIT THEM WHERE IT HURTS.
ITS A SACRIFICE ON OUR PART BUT IN THE END IT WOULD PREVAIL..
I forgot, everyone wants to bitch and then bend over and take it…
Spineless.
January 20, 2009 at 4:45 pm
the damage is done what are you all saying? why go back and continue the year if we are gonna learn less and have 3-4 months(fall/winter semester) of hell.
January 20, 2009 at 4:46 pm
tyler shipley was on cp24. he said as early as 9 pm…we will find out…alex and mamdouh shoukri are at the hotel as well…i guess we will find out SOON.
January 20, 2009 at 4:46 pm
People like ZB who really want to do (?) should not even bother coming to school even if every thing were normal. There are so many ways, places and lot of time for doing what he wants, but definitely not at the cost of others education, money and time
January 20, 2009 at 4:47 pm
@York Student
Well of course there woudn’t be any casses period, crazily IF the year was cancelled. That would never happen. York is a buisness first and a school second. This is why university today is a joke.
January 20, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Im pushing for cancel
January 20, 2009 at 4:48 pm
i want school to start Feb 9.. getting implants in 2 dayS and need to recover LOL
January 20, 2009 at 4:48 pm
TRUTH sounds like a crazy rebel… Seriously, if you want to rebel, go rebel about the things that deeply matter in the world…
January 20, 2009 at 4:49 pm
@GEEZ
LOL.
January 20, 2009 at 4:49 pm
@ Yorkie
Whoops… my bad.
Still… Hoping for a year cancellation and full refund is pretty nutty. It would seem dropping out is still a better option for those people.
January 20, 2009 at 4:49 pm
open cp24
January 20, 2009 at 4:50 pm
LOL ITS TRUE..I’VE BEEN POSTPONING MY BOOB JOB FOR 2 MONTHS NOW..CUZ OF THIS STUPID STRIKE!!
January 20, 2009 at 4:50 pm
@ram
wow stfu please and tell you mom to craddle my ballsack in her mouth bitch.
January 20, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Seriously this is starting to piss me off. A number of people apart from York students visit this website to get info and read what the students are thinking. And if they see that the students are so demotivated to study, its going to be a huge black mark on our reputation as York Graduates/Students (as if we havent endured bad reputation enough already). So to all those who want this year to be cancelled – shut the hell up, stop posting here, and drop out of the courses that u are enrolled in.
January 20, 2009 at 4:50 pm
oh brother.
January 20, 2009 at 4:50 pm
i wack off to gay porn and eat my own cum.
January 20, 2009 at 4:51 pm
OHH BROTHER!!!! FUCK MY IN MY BUTTHOLE HARDER!!!
January 20, 2009 at 4:52 pm
um lol u copied my name? how retarded.
January 20, 2009 at 4:52 pm
okay guys, that wasn’t me. apparently some immature little brat took my name.
January 20, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Question for people..
Is this strike motivating you to transfer schools?
January 20, 2009 at 4:53 pm
lol i like forums without mods… penis
January 20, 2009 at 4:53 pm
@curious yorkie
who are you to tell any1 what to do? each student is saying what they are feeling.
January 20, 2009 at 4:53 pm
@ Curious Yorkie
I have a feeling that there are non-York students posting on this board as well.
January 20, 2009 at 4:54 pm
i am curious as to how it would feel if i stuck my penis into a vacuum.
January 20, 2009 at 4:55 pm
@ Curious Yorkie
I agree. York’s rep isn’t only the fault of the staff/admin, but the students as well.
January 20, 2009 at 4:55 pm
@bulldog
..honestly if i was a 3rd yr student i would switch schools but im a 4th yr and go to schulich and if i was to transfer i wouldnt graduate from schulich so…its not worth it…
January 20, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Really mature there, fake curious yorkie.
January 20, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Just an observation, Cupe published this on their website at 20:04 hours:
On Wednesday, January 21, there will be a GMM at 9AM-12PM at the Montecassino. Picket lines will briefly resume between 2-5PM.
Afterwards, picket hours will revert to the normal schedule of 7AM-5PM.
By admin at 2009-01-20 20:41 | campus | deadline | login to post comments | 1 read
– It seems as if they are betting that the results will be in their favour.
January 20, 2009 at 4:56 pm
@curious
You shut the hell up!
I’ve been against this strike ever since my T.A’s were spewing their bull$hit propaganda to all my fellow students during tutorial.
People visiting this site must be reading this and thinking “wow, look at all these spineless students not fighting their rights or speaking up.”
I wished this strike never happened but now that it has it screwed us “the students” over royally.
We never had a voice and even with the advent of all these methods of communication such as this site, no one has organized and done something meaningful.
WE ARE GETTING THE SHAFT HERE!
WE WILL BE GOING BACK AND SUFFERING WITH A COMPRESSED YEAR, PISSED OFF T.A’S!
WE DID NOT HAVE ANY HAND IN CAUSING ANY OF THIS…
We have been WRONGED, yet you think I’m being demotivated because I want to screw the year and screw over the bastards that did this to us?
YOU ARE SPINELESS!
January 20, 2009 at 4:57 pm
U stop YS!! DONT U DARE WRITE SOME THING LIKE THIS. THIS ANONYMITY IN THIS SITE IS BEING EPLOITED IN A NEGATIVE WAY. I WOULD APPRECIATE THE OWNER TO MODERATE UNCIVILIZED RUTHLESS NASTY DIRTY DETESTABLE DISGUSTING AWKWARD AWFUL REPULSIVE UNETHICAL USELESS RUBBISH comments
January 20, 2009 at 4:57 pm
@Curious Yorkie (fake one)
Try it. You just might learn something. ^^
January 20, 2009 at 4:58 pm
i am also curious as to if i will have an erection if i watched my mom trim her vaginal pubes.
January 20, 2009 at 4:58 pm
anyone here ever bone any of their TA’s
January 20, 2009 at 4:58 pm
And screw over the undergrads as well. If we were to rally for compensation, I would want monetary compensation (1/2-1 semester’s worth) not losing a year of my life.
January 20, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Any /b/tards here?
January 20, 2009 at 4:58 pm
@ Soontobelawstudent
So what do you suggest?
January 20, 2009 at 4:59 pm
I’m a but virgin. I didn’t say that recent comment.
I feel violated.
January 20, 2009 at 4:59 pm
@ James:
reporting for duty sir.
January 20, 2009 at 5:00 pm
its 9pm ANY NEWS?????????
January 20, 2009 at 5:00 pm
@ram
Don’t humour the trolls, even though I just did. Sorry, that was for fun. ^_~
January 20, 2009 at 5:00 pm
no news till 10pm my friend.
January 20, 2009 at 5:01 pm
@ iestsalad
Did you hear that for sure? I’ve just been flipping back to CP24 on commercial breaks.
January 20, 2009 at 5:02 pm
@ram
the fake YS wrote that. not me. he’s apparently some 10 year old kid taking other people’s names and posting stupid comments.
January 20, 2009 at 5:03 pm
We should be rallying at the least for compensation…
We’ve already been screwed over. Id be happy with refunded tuition and a fresh start in September. Especially knowing that it hurt york admin and Cupe.
September isn’t even far away, do you not notice that we have been on strike longer than we have BEEN IN CLASS!
York admin is extremely conservative and antagonistic.
Cupe is radically leftist\militant.
York students – Um, wait. We are just indifferent. Not willing to do anything one way or the other.
That to me is unacceptable since we are the INNOCENT PARTY
January 20, 2009 at 5:03 pm
@ j
thats what I thought I heard, and I think someone else commented on it as well on this forum. It might be hard to find, however, considering there are like 3,000 comments on this thread.
January 20, 2009 at 5:03 pm
I just want my money back and the heck with York.
January 20, 2009 at 5:03 pm
you guys needaaa chill and tell all of your moms to come over to my crib so we have one huge as fuckin orgy.
January 20, 2009 at 5:04 pm
YES WE CAN! YES WE WILL! THE RESULT IS “YES”!
January 20, 2009 at 5:04 pm
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January 20, 2009 at 5:04 pm
CP24 – ALL UNITS VOTE NO.
January 20, 2009 at 5:04 pm
63% rejectedddddddddddd
January 20, 2009 at 5:05 pm
stfu obama
January 20, 2009 at 5:05 pm
FUCK!! SEE!
WERE SCREWED
January 20, 2009 at 5:05 pm
all 3 REJECTED IT!
cp24
we are FUCKED
January 20, 2009 at 5:05 pm
latest from CP24 – NO
January 20, 2009 at 5:05 pm
All units vote NO.
January 20, 2009 at 5:05 pm
And it’s a no
January 20, 2009 at 5:05 pm
All three units have rejected the offer.
January 20, 2009 at 5:05 pm
settle down obama. take your meds.
January 20, 2009 at 5:05 pm
63% rejected
January 20, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Now do I look so crazy
Lets do something about this BS!
January 20, 2009 at 5:05 pm
The union voted no. 63% voted NO
January 20, 2009 at 5:05 pm
63% is correct
January 20, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Breaking News: 63% of CUPE 3903 Rejected the offer.
January 20, 2009 at 5:05 pm
CHECK CP24. IT IS OFFICIAL NOW. REJECTION BY 63%. I’m not trolling I swear to God.
January 20, 2009 at 5:06 pm
rejected as reported by CP 24 =. just now.
January 20, 2009 at 5:06 pm
63% rejected OMFGGGGGG
January 20, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Canadian News Networks are useless. One anchor goes “….now let’s look at news around toronto…(or something along that lines)” and they zoom into the other anchor that talks about….OBAMA. WHAT DOES HE HAVE TO DO WITH TORONTO? NOTHING!
cp24 sucks
January 20, 2009 at 5:06 pm
they rejected the offer
January 20, 2009 at 5:06 pm
63 percent rejected the offer!
January 20, 2009 at 5:06 pm
CP24
January 20, 2009 at 5:06 pm
the union has voted down the offer by 63 per cent.
i saw this on cp24 just now (9pm)
January 20, 2009 at 5:06 pm
goddamn it cupe. suck my balls.
January 20, 2009 at 5:06 pm
all 3 units rejected the vote…63 % no
just on cp 24
January 20, 2009 at 5:06 pm
The madness continues…
January 20, 2009 at 5:07 pm
any1 wna suck mine?
January 20, 2009 at 5:07 pm
CP24 Confirmed – strike is still on and the TAs are celebrating – those bastards! Let me finish my damn degree!
January 20, 2009 at 5:07 pm
nice they voted no by 63%
January 20, 2009 at 5:07 pm
well.. either way .. we’re in deep sh!t
if the year gets cancelled, we fall behind ..
if it doesn’t, say goodbye to your summer job !!
so, you will probably have to find some other place to sleep in, because you won’t have any money left to pay for the rent for the extended school year nor your next school year…
but hey ! .. look on the bright side … “they” are getting a pay raise ! YAAY …
January 20, 2009 at 5:07 pm
All 3 Units Defeat Ratification Vote
All Three Units Defeat Ratification Vote
61.7% no from U1
59.3% no from U2
70% no from U3
http://www.cupe3903.tao.ca
January 20, 2009 at 5:07 pm
hahahaha epic fail by YORK. fuckin shitty ass school.
January 20, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Well… see you all tomorrow eh?
January 20, 2009 at 5:08 pm
strike is still onn
January 20, 2009 at 5:08 pm
@ Timothy
I laughed at the exact same thing.
“Now, lets get back to some Toronto news… Obama was sworn in today as the 44th US President”
.. and they are still talking about Obama 5 minutes later.
@ ieatsalad
Thanks! If Shoukri is making an announcement I can imagine they need to have a set time for the press release.
January 20, 2009 at 5:08 pm
They voted NO
January 20, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Watch CP24 they were talking about the vote..64% voted no
January 20, 2009 at 5:08 pm
I was just informed that the union rejected the offer.
I’m not kidding.
January 20, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Fucking Cupe retards.
Don’t give a shit about any of the students.
3 fucking months we’re out of school.
Hope the retard Cupe trolls on this website are happy. As are all the moron students who are too lazy to do a decent days worth of studying.
January 20, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Fuck you, cupe. Fuck you.
January 20, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Soontobelawstudent
I totally agree with the first half of your comment, albeit i have my reservations about wasting an entire year (hell, i could’ve taken a fifth year in high school this year), i would at least feel somewhat satisfied with refunded tuition fees.
My question is (and i hope there is an osgoode student who can answer it)if in the event of a canceled year, in which the university does not refund our tuition, is there ANYTHING we as students can do legally to fight back?
January 20, 2009 at 5:09 pm
if you look on the CUPE website they’ve added to tommorrow’s agenda (in the calender on the upper right corner) a “post ratification party” @ 8pm. What do we make of this? “Post ratification” in the sense that a deal has been ratified and now they’re celebrating? Or are they celebrating defeat over the ‘rat vote’? If the offer 9which is below CUPE expectations) was ratified i doubt they would be having a party to celebrate so….i dunno what to make of this party bussiness…any ideas????
January 20, 2009 at 5:09 pm
just saw on cp24 all three units voted no
January 20, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Hahah! York get your ass to that table, fuckers!
January 20, 2009 at 5:09 pm
@ crap
aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
They aren’t lying. It’s on the CUPE website.
January 20, 2009 at 5:09 pm
what is your source?
January 20, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Hooray… :/
January 20, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Yeah, did anyone else watch the breaking news on Cp24? I’m sure they’ll repeat it again, but Cupe 3903 rejected the latest offer, (around 60%+) and they wanna go back to the negotiations table. So does this mean the gov’t will intervene at this point, or still wait it out??
January 20, 2009 at 5:10 pm
this just in on cupe’s site: http://www.cupe3903.tao.ca/
All Three Units Defeat Ratification Vote
61.7% no from U1
59.3% no from U2
70% no from U3
Yikes.
January 20, 2009 at 5:10 pm
@ZB
STFU
YORK DOESNT SUCK…I ACTUALLY LIKED IT b4 THIS STRIKE. JUST BECAUSE THE TAs HAVE LOST it…DOESNT MEAN THE SCHOOL SUCKS.
January 20, 2009 at 5:10 pm
63% no? Post a link
January 20, 2009 at 5:10 pm
just Heard 680 news. the results will be out at 11 pm tonight.
January 20, 2009 at 5:11 pm
@post a link
Wait for them to repeat it on CP24.
January 20, 2009 at 5:12 pm
The results are already out everyone check cupe site
January 20, 2009 at 5:12 pm
I WILL BE BACK.
I WILL UTILIZE ALL MY RESOURCES TO HELP DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.
I PLAN TO INITIATE A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT TO DEMAND A TUITION REFUND.
COMPENSATION FOR EACH STUDENT BASED ON LOST WAGES (2001 estimates + inflation and adjustment based on amount of time exceeding that strike)
Punitive damages resulting from negative stigma attached to our future degrees
Refund for all book and 2008-2009 school supply purchases.
All legal fees incurred.
I’ve had enough!
Whos with me!
January 20, 2009 at 5:12 pm
all cupe members can suck on my dick
January 20, 2009 at 5:12 pm
I haven’t been able to find anything about the units voting no… what’s going on?
January 20, 2009 at 5:13 pm
I am shocked that unit 2 rejected the offer. ….
January 20, 2009 at 5:13 pm
IM WITH U SOONTOBELAWSTUDENT ONLY IF U SUCK MY BALLS
January 20, 2009 at 5:13 pm
so the pokemon theme song doesn’t get deleted, but my comment does. pfffft.
January 20, 2009 at 5:14 pm
@Soontobelawstudent
If you’re actually serious about this, count me in.
January 20, 2009 at 5:14 pm
i did post the link.. it’s right on their site
January 20, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Where’s that failure med school kid with my $$…
January 20, 2009 at 5:15 pm
who is up for kicking some picketer ass tomorrow???
January 20, 2009 at 5:15 pm
@soontobelawstudent
You got the info i got the cash i’m with you! i’m so down in suing this crappy school
January 20, 2009 at 5:15 pm
I just found this, it seems to be a no vote.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090120.wyork0120/BNStory/National/home
January 20, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Capitalism had another defeat
This is the biggest victory against these imperialists. The next step is to cancel the school year
Demand the impossible
Viva la Revolution
Go CUPE Go
January 20, 2009 at 5:17 pm
63% against according to the news ticker on channel 24
January 20, 2009 at 5:18 pm
baha tyler shipley looks like a lanky fool.
January 20, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Wow, if this place gets any livelier a funeral is going to break out.
January 20, 2009 at 5:23 pm
OKAY. Where is CUPEs stupid little ratification Party going to be held?
We need to go there are start fu**ing screwing everything up. Or be like “Woohoo, we fu**ed over the students again, YEAH GO CUPE GO”
January 20, 2009 at 5:24 pm
now it’s time for york to begin bargaining in earnest. it’s time to stop messing around. the administration needs to offer a deal that can be recommended to the membership. they better pull their finger out this time.
January 20, 2009 at 5:26 pm
“they better pull their finger out this time.”
First CUPE has to take it out of its ass. It seems that’s where they’ve put it.
January 20, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Why don’t these picketing losers realize that when their strike is over they’ll return to teach at a university which has absolutely NO * FU**ING REPUTATION left?
January 20, 2009 at 5:30 pm
@ theowne
It never had much reputation to begin with, save for schulich…
January 20, 2009 at 5:31 pm
the admin has no idea what it is doing. they forced a vote thinking they would win. it wasn’t even close. york admin thought they had offered enough to at least split the units – wrong again. they need to get better labour advice and they had better put a better offer on the table or this will drag on.
January 20, 2009 at 5:33 pm
i m wondering that we are 50,000. We can out# cupe or all the other union like this. Even if all the 50,000 wont speak but atleast 20-25000 will speak. It is a huge #. We can make an impact. We are the only university students in canada who are struggling right now. If we stand up and do something. May be this thing will not happen again in any university. Why dont we just f***ing go to ottawa and sit in front of the parliament house. Demand for a solution to the government so that this disaster wont happend again to future students or even ur kids in future. To accomplish something there is always a sacrifice. We as a york student can stand shoulder to shoulder and end this for once & for all.
So who is with me?
January 20, 2009 at 5:41 pm
@ arch.
yeah, you lead 25k students to ottawa, goodluck. only problem is that the universities are provincially regulated, queen’s park might be a better place for a sit-in.
January 20, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Why would the union think that the university will bend over and just capitulate? If the parties were 2 or 3% apart then I could see it. They are not. There currently is a 10% difference in total compensation.
Guess what? This is going to go BTWL and then the union will be looking at forced arbitration. The same thing that was offered going back to the start of this mess. Tory already wants to recall the legislature. McGuinty said he wanted this vote to take place. My reading? The university waits until BTWL is introduced either in a recalled legislature or when it resits on Feb 17.
The university will not just “bend over”. They have waited too long.
And they were looking out for us students. What a load…
January 20, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Whats next………………………………………………
January 20, 2009 at 5:53 pm
How come none of the union supporters on here talk about BTWL and what it means to there “Impossible” demands?
January 20, 2009 at 5:53 pm
@ here
not a chance of BTWL. hydro one engineers and scientists were on strike for over 100 days and mcguinty wouldn’t legislate them back even though the electricity grid was in jeopardy. why would he legislate ta’s and ga’s back? stop being silly and getting people’s hopes up.
January 20, 2009 at 5:56 pm
@ BTTT
I’m silly?
Why have both parties and the NDP, who is curiously silent, talked about it?
January 20, 2009 at 6:00 pm
@ the wannabe law student
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
January 20, 2009 at 6:01 pm
@ here
it is called spin. and the only party that matters is the one in power and they are not going to set a precedent with something of this nature. if they legislate ta’s and ga’s back then every big employer who’s workers go on strike will say we want btwl. cupe 3903 members are not exactly essenial services. the only governemnt that mindlessly utilized btwl was the harris gov’t. it ain’t happening here – i’ll bet my osap money on it.
January 20, 2009 at 6:20 pm
@York FTL
So because you’re happy with a poor reputation we should all be.
York has, let’s see, a great business school, a great law school, the 2nd highest rated Arts program in the province and in the top 50 internationally. So why accept a poor reputation?
But instead of doing anything to help that we have fu**ed up strikes like this that only make it worse.
January 20, 2009 at 6:23 pm
@ BTTT
No, you hope that “ain’t happening here” as I hope that it does. All this is speculation on a blog by a bunch of people who think they no more than the next. Me included. Our speculation is just different.
I just wish the union had of been a little more responsible in their demands (Ask a GM worker) and honest. Any negotiation is about what “I” can get . To say any different is lying. I just received an email from a prof asking for input. You can be sure I will give that person input.
But you can guarantee one thing. If York capitulates, my fees next year will go up more than they would have. I’ll bet my OSAP on that. Life’s taught me that much.
And guess what? Let’s do all this again in 2 years. BTWL will be introduced faster than you can think. 100,000s of students affected? Guaranteed.
January 20, 2009 at 6:51 pm
About reputation:
Most employers do not care about the reputation of the university you got your degree from. The only exception is for the professional degees. As a recruiter, I only cared that you got the degree. A BA from Brock, Carleton, Western, etc is the same as a BA from York. So you can stop that nonsense and quit being elitist.
“Hold a fork, go to York” is only said by students at other universities. It boosts their own egos.
January 20, 2009 at 7:23 pm
Pressure Required on Dalton McGutless government
It appears from a recent news statement, that the Ontario government has decided to step back [ref BTWL] and do nothing. All students and parents should e-mail, phone, write to their MPPs and to the McGutless government, that action IS required. Also remember this position that was taken, on the next provincial election; an opportunity for the youth to get out and vote for something that they have a stake in.
January 20, 2009 at 9:52 pm
THANK GOD IT GOT REJECTED!
January 26, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Back in 2001 when I was at York as an intl student they gave me a measly $100 in compensation. probably because they thought the wouldn’t be sued.
I think more than the domestic student intl student ought to be given $10000 when you consider than they pay and pay and can’t work to pay and pay in foreign currency and pay to stay doing nothing and pay to travel home in the thousands than just a bus or cheap flight within Canada. As a citizen now I still feel the $ pain the intl students feel more than just politics or local students concerns. If you object then ask the Fed Gov to blacklist YU to all prospective intl. students.
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